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Rural medicine course: classes to be held in district schools

From : http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rural-medicine-course-classes-to-be-held-in-district-schools/571387/0

According to the draft of the proposed rural medical course — Bachelor of Rural Medicine and Surgery’ (BRMS), the classes will be held in medical schools (located in district hospitals) and the examinations will be conducted as well as the degrees conferred by the university to which the medical schools would be affiliated.
Districts where no medical college exists will be given preference for establishment of these schools with a minimum of either 25 or 50 students.

The medical schools will have residential campuses, and a district-based admission system has been charted out for the course.

Those with the BRMS degree can be sent anywhere across the state, but they cannot seek service in any other state or else their degree will be rendered invalid. The draft reads: “Registration of the BRMS graduate will be worked out by the states concerned and their respective medical councils. The medical schools will be recognised for the conferment of degree by the concerned state medical council or by such authority as would be notified for the said purpose.”

The registered graduates will be under the ambit of disciplinary jurisdiction of the code of medical ethics prescribed by the Medical Council of India (MCI). Also, the registration has to be renewed on a yearly basis for four years when they get permanent registration.

The course will be broken up into Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry, Pathology and Microbiology, Pharmacology, Forensic medicine, Medicine and allied disciplines, Paediatrics, Surgical an allied disciplines, Orthopaedics, Obstetrics and Gynaecology and community medicine.

The draft specifies in the teachers’ eligibility criteria that medical officers without PG degree cannot go beyond Assistant Professors.

An MBBS degree holder with three years experience as medical officer is eligible for the post of lecturer; a medical officer with postgraduation qualifies as assistant professor; a medical officer with PG qualification and eight years experience as medical officer can become an associate professor; and a medical officer with PG qualification and 14 years experience as medical officer can become a professor.

While these are some of the key points mentioned in the draft, MCI president Dr Ketan Desai said: “The key points listed in the draft will be the skeleton for the implementation of this course. Only a few changes are expected in the final framework.”

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  1. MEMORANDUM TO THE HEALTH MINISTER OF INDIA

    NATIONAL INTEGRATED MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
    PATHARDI BRANCH –
    MEMORANDUM TO THE HEALTH MINISTER OF INDIA
    1st January 2010

    To,

    The Health Minister,

    Government of India

    Sub : Regarding the proposal of MCI & Health Ministry to start new course for rural health request from NATIONAL INTEGRATED MEDICAL ASSOCIATION

    Respected sir,

    We came to know from news paper reports that MCI & Health Ministry are going to start new three & half years course (BRMS) for rural health.

    Sir, we are BAMS & BHMS general practitioners in Maharashtra. Most of us are from rural background and practicing in rural area since last 10 to 20 years.

    BAMS practitioners are allowed to practice modern medicine under Drugs & Cosmetics Act 1945 Sec 2ee, in Maharashtra.

    Sir, we are competent to provide proper health-care in rural area. We are also ready to undergo any qualifying test or training, if Ministry thinks so.

    According to us there is adequate number of general practitioners in rural Maharashtra, and there is no need to start three & half years BRMS course as far as Maharashtra is concerned.

    With regards..

    PRESIDENT,

    NIMA, PATHARDI

    IT IS THE TIME TO INTENSIFY OUR AGITATION
    I t is good thing that debate started on ” Rural Health Care”…

    but it is on wrong path, the MCI proposed BRMS ( now named BRHC),The course will benefit education barons & not the rural population. The private medical colleges are run by politicians & medical councils have strong influence of politicians on them. The “new dukakdari” will now start & the runners of this shop will be education barons, bureaucrats & so called professors…

    We have to strongly oppose this course, the AYUSH students in UP are on strike..

    Unani colleges are on strike..

    we have to intensify our agitation have to communicate with BAMS/BHMS college students..

    It is the the right time to fight for our legal rights…protest against this BRMS/BRHC course..

    we are bright practitioners/students, we have not taken admission to these courses out of love for ayurveda or homeopathy..but to become general practitioner.

    We are able to provide proper health care at GP level..we are ready to prove it any time…

    But lastly…

    keep away the advocates of Ayurveda & Homeopathy from this agitation..

    LET US UNITE TO PROVIDE BETTER HEALTH SERVICES FOR OUR PEOPLE
    SAY NO TO BRMS/ BHRC COURSE : SIGN THE PETITION

    Sign the petition

    for details visit the page : SAY NO 2 BRMS/BHRC COURSE

  2. Shahul Hameed says:

    Respected Health minister, GOI,
    I humbly request to you consider AYUSH AND HOMEOPATHY doctors (BAMS/BHMS)for rural health care by training them in 1 yr pharmacology and modern medicine instead introducing a new course(BRMS)as BAMS/BHMS doctors doing excellent job in rural area. Going forward, GOI need to give serious thought to having uniform medical degree (MBBS) instead of BAMS/BHMS/MBBS/BSMS/BYNS etc.

    Looking forward to good initiatives in medical education from you.

    With thanks and regards
    Shahul

    • Wonderful request……..only need to learn pharmacology and moderm medicine to be an MBBS doctor……better MBBS doctors study about Arishtam and Kashayam etc….Why not people request for that???? why feeling inferior to MBBS doctors??? so we can create more quacks ! ! ! ! ! ! Then it is better to teach BSc Nurses about pharmacology and mordern medicine….Everybody want to be an MBBS doctor….Pharmacists are also waiting there…. Let everyone be MBBS doctors…..

    • vtharavah says:

      Why dont you serve the rural people with you own branch of medicine??? Is it not effective enough to cure the diseases??? or are you ashamed of being an ayush doctor???? your request is shameful for the entire ayush and homeopathy doctors……So sad to see so…

  3. There is no need of different councils like CCIM & CCH..
    The councils are ” white elephants “..!

  4. AHMED HUSSAIN says:

    The MCI has taken a dedicated step to give healthcare to rural people through creating a new comited graduate in medicine and thus saving the rural people from geting treatment from village quacks who does not know the ABC of medical science.It is a noble concept and we all should support to make it a success.

  5. NATIONALIZE ALL THE PRIVATE MEDICAL COLLEGES & UPGRADE ALL EXISTING BAMS/BHMS/BUMS COLLEGES TO MBBS & PROVIDE UNIFORM MEDICAL DEGREE IN INDIA
    We hereby request to

    Hon,President of India,

    Hon,Prime minister of India,

    Hon, Health Minister of India

    & All the Hon, MP’s from Rajyasabha & Loksabha

    to seriously think on “Nationalization of Medical Education”…

    1)Medical Education should be on the top of priority list of Govt of India..

    Privatization of medical education started in 1953,

    & now every big politician owns a Medical college & sugar factory.

    those who cant own medical college, own BAMS or BHMS colleges..

    management quota seats are literally sold.

    Medical Education is now market, where those who have lot of money can get admissions

    Truly worthy students are deprived from getting medical education, in this Bazar.

    Those who invest money for education naturally tries to put out the invested money with interest, they are going to accept freebies & gifts from the Pharma companies, no matter MCI’s Ketan Desai bans it.

    True Medical professional needs Empathy, Emotions & Ethics in his heart.

    Privatization of Medical Education kept all these words into dictionary

    2)Upgrade all the existing BAMS/BHMS/BUMS/BSMS colleges to MBBS & provide them with necessary infrastructure.

    Existing BAMS/BHMS/BUMS/BSMS practitioners should be upgraded to MBBS by offering them refreshing course in medicine & pharmacology through CME centers at Taluka/Tehsil level.The CME centers at Taluka/Tehsil level should be provided with recent advances in technology like video conferencing.

    3) Government’s job is to provide/ensure proper health care to it’s citizens & not to promote the different pathies, hence AYUSH dept. & CCIM & CCH should be scrapped.

    & Uniform scientific medical syllabus should be offered in the Nation,Ayurveda,unani & siddha would be offered as optional subjects.as they have the Indian origin & should be considered as potential resource for research in main stream medicine.
    Thanx with Regards
    NIMA PATHARDI

    • vtharavah says:

      Why are u crying to become a MBBS doctor??? want to make more money than you make now??? or not making enough now??? Is not your branch of medicine effective enough to cure diseases???Then who will go for ayush and homeopathy courses??? you all want to be an MBBS doctor ! !! ! ! !

      • dr.anil ambhore says:

        why u r jealus on bams and bhms doctors? bcause ur mbbs.there r few colleges for mbbs and more scope.mbbs are applicable for all india medical servises exams ,more govt jobs which they dont do seriusly.there colleges have good infrastructure,hospitals,patients,quellified staff.there they became superior otherwise they r not learn from mothers womb.

        • vtharavath says:

          Usually people get jealous on good things…So there is no question of I am getting jealous on you…If you are smart enough and intelligent enough, you would have got admission for the MBBS course after your plus two….You have got what you are suitable for….Try hard and sincerly and serve the rural public with your capacity…If you are smart enough you can make money in your feild too….don’t try to enter in to morden medicine in a short cut way…you have already proved you are not suitable for the MBBS course…

          • Dear Dr.Vtharavath,
            While we agree with your point that “don’t try to enter in to morden medicine in a short cut way”, we feel that comments like “you have already proved you are not suitable for the MBBS course” are not suited for your dignity !

        • vtharavath says:

          Dear Sir

          First of all let me express my appology to use a comment“you have already proved you are not suitable for the MBBS course”.I am Really sorry for that.The alligation on me by my friend that I am “jealous on BAMS and BHMS doctors” made me to say like that…I am really sorry once again. I will take care in the future no to use such phrases..

          Thank you once again for your positive comments.

          Regards
          Vtharavath

      • dr.santosh tupere says:

        //Medical Education is now market,where those who have lot of money can get admissions

        Truly worthy students are deprived from getting medical education,in this Bazar.

        Those who invest money for education naturally tries to put out the invested money with interest,they are going to accept freebies &gifts from the Pharma companies,no matter MCI’s Ketan Desai bans it.//

        This is the true scenario of ‘Indian Medical Education System’..
        And you are calling you crying..?

        Shame of you..!

      • dr.santosh tupere says:

        Dear Dr.Vtharavath

        //Medical Education is now market,where those who have lot of money can get admissions

        Truly worthy students are deprived from getting medical education,in this Bazar.

        Those who invest money for education naturally tries to put out the invested money with interest,they are going to accept freebies &gifts from the Pharma companies,no matter MCI’s Ketan Desai bans it.//

        This is the true scenario of ‘Indian Medical Education System’..
        And you are calling you crying..?

        Shame of you..!

    • vtharavah says:

      Why are u crying to become a MBBS doctor??? want to make more money than you make now??? or not making enough now??? Is not your branch of medicine effective enough to cure diseases???Then who will go for ayush and homeopathy courses??? you all want to be an MBBS doctor ! !! ! ! !

      • dr.santosh tupere says:

        Dear Dr.Vtharavath

        //Medical Education is now market,where those who have lot of money can get admissions

        Truly worthy students are deprived from getting medical education,in this Bazar.

        Those who invest money for education naturally tries to put out the invested money with interest,they are going to accept freebies &gifts from the Pharma companies,no matter MCI’s Ketan Desai bans it.//

        This is the true scenario of ‘Indian Medical Education System’..
        And you are calling you crying..?
        One needs Heart & Brain to accept the reality…

        Shame of you..!

        • Vtharavath says:

          Dear dr.santosh tupere

          The declared merit seats for MBBS is not sold under any circumstances. Also certain new self finance medical colleges provide some percentage of their medical seats for merit students, which increase the opportunity of a merit student to get admitted to MBBS course. So the existence of private medical colleges increases the opportunity of merit students. But you have to see the other side of the coin. To maintain and run private medical colleges, the govt is not providing any money or facilities to them. Private colleges have to make this money from either the fees or by selling the seats. What ever the case may be, the govt cannot acquire the seats available with private medical colleges for the merit students. These seats are extra to the merit seats available.If we say no to these seats, the only result is that these seats will no more be available to either poor merit student or to the rich student who purchases seats by paying money. Having money is not any ones fault. Who ever has money let them pay and get admission to MBBS? Why should we object it? You are never going to get those seats under merit quota .Then why?
          I Underline my statement that only those students having enough talent, intelligence, ability and attitude can become a successful doctor in modern medicine and vice versa.

          If we don’t allow him to study in India he may go abroad and study medicine. The money he would spend will be lost to our country.

          Nowadays studying MBBS abroad is much cheaper than studying that in India.
          Keep one thing in mind that if we oppose the admission to MBBS seat in the market place, don’t expect that it will add on to the merit seat and the opportunity of the merit student will increase. Never, ever you get those seats under merit. Either the private colleges will be closed or these seats will not be available for the purchase. So what is the advantage you are getting by opposing the admission to these market available seats? Govt cannot purchase these seats and give to the merit students.

          One should insist the Govt to increase the merit seats in the Govt colleges and to increase the standards of medical education in India and tighten the structure and method of conduction of university examinations etc

          One more point to add…Who ever pay money and get admission to MBBS course will have to pass the University examination which will make him qualified for practicing as a doctor in modern medicine. By paying money for the admission doesn’t award him MBBS Degree.

          Vtharavath

          • dr.santosh tupere says:

            Dear Vtharavath

            Why are you defending “Ketan Bhai’s” polocies..?

        • Vtharavath says:

          ………..AND YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING ADMISSION TO MBBS COURSE WILL BE THE SAME IF YOU DON”T PREPARE WELL FOR THE QUALIFYING EXAMINATIONS FPR THE ADMISION TO MBBS COURSES……..

          Vtharavath

        • Vtharavath says:

          …………..AND YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING ADMISSION TO MBBS COURSE WILL BE THE SAME IF YOU DON’T PREPARE WELL FOR THE QUALIFYING EXAMINATIONS FOR THE ADMISION TO MBBS COURSES…………………..

          Vtharavath

        • Vtharavath says:

          Dear Dr.dr.santosh tupere

          I have simple question …
          Why every one so eager to become an MBBS Graduate including you….
          Why they are not so eager to be an AYUSH practitiner?…..
          Why no parma is giving freebies &gifts to you.You are also a medical practitioner and part of the Indian health care system isn’t it?
          Private AYUSH colleges are also selling their seats for money ! ! ! ! ! ! !

          Vtharavath

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